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Post by augustwinterman on Oct 31, 2008 15:36:23 GMT -5
Exactly, and I agree with that stance 100%. We've done about all we can do in Iraq, and I think it's time to re-focus our search on Bin Laden.
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Post by Shiv on Oct 31, 2008 15:50:31 GMT -5
*votts furiously*
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Post by runny on Oct 31, 2008 16:14:43 GMT -5
Well august, the problem i have with that is that people that like him proclaim that he is going to end the war. i see both mccain and obama just prolonging it.
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Post by behemoth on Nov 1, 2008 9:54:29 GMT -5
If you truly vote for who YOU truly believe that will run this country the way YOU want it run, then it's not a waste. The only problem with this statement is that it means no matter who I vote for I'm wasting my vote as either way I'd be voting for the lesser of two evils. I don't want either major candidate (or any of the independants for that matter) running this country. The sad state which this country has entered is that many people vote against a candidate rather than for one. "I'm voting for Obama because I hate Hillary," has now turned into "I'm voting for McCain because Obama is an underqualified idiot," or "I'm voting for Obama because Palin is an incompetent beauty queen and has no business in politics while McCain is 'Bush the sequal.'" I don't care which party you are voting for honestly, because all the candidates are terrible. It is as if each election the candidates try to outdo each other in a pooping competition. "Bush took a dump on this country like never seen before, I promise America a three foot corn log! I'll show you all how crap on a nation right!" The fact that I will have to end up deciding who I hate more and then only vote to try to prevent the lucky winner of the acclaimed "Who does Jacob hate most?" competition from taking office sickens me. There is no winning in this election...not for America at large at least. |
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Post by nightometal on Nov 1, 2008 10:01:49 GMT -5
If you truly vote for who YOU truly believe that will run this country the way YOU want it run, then it's not a waste. The only problem with this statement is that it means no matter who I vote for I'm wasting my vote as either way I'd be voting for the lesser of two evils. I don't want either major candidate (or any of the independants for that matter) running this country. The sad state which this country has entered is that many people vote against a candidate rather than for one. "I'm voting for Obama because I hate Hillary," has now turned into "I'm voting for McCain because Obama is an underqualified idiot," or "I'm voting for Obama because Palin is an incompetent beauty queen and has no business in politics while McCain is 'Bush the sequal.'" I don't care which party you are voting for honestly, because all the candidates are terrible. It is as if each election the candidates try to outdo each other in a pooping competition. "Bush took a dump on this country like never seen before, I promise America a three foot corn log! I'll show you all how crap on a nation right!" The fact that I will have to end up deciding who I hate more and then only vote to try to prevent the lucky winner of the acclaimed "Who does Jacob hate most?" competition from taking office sickens me. There is no winning in this election...not for America at large at least. You've taken the words out of my mouth man. I think this is the danger of a two party system, not to mention the fact that few people who are truly qualified really want to be president. It's too stressful and doesn't pay diddly compared to other jobs people could get. |
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Post by augustwinterman on Nov 3, 2008 0:33:30 GMT -5
Well, that's pretty much why I'm not voting. The only independent that I would consider voting for is Chuck Baldwin, but I'm not even registered so it doesn't matter.  |
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Post by radar on Nov 3, 2008 0:40:21 GMT -5
I'd probably rank the two about the same. They both promise change, but yet fail to specify what change they will bring. The only thing I really agree with Obama about that I disagree with McCain is the Iraq situation. Agreed. Which sucks, because that means I'm going to be casting a veeery reluctant ballot. |
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Post by brandonsmith on Nov 4, 2008 22:33:17 GMT -5
I wrote in Ron Paul.
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Post by Josh on Nov 4, 2008 22:49:37 GMT -5
I voted for chuck norris.
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Post by safehaven on Nov 4, 2008 23:55:58 GMT -5
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Post by amoyensis on Nov 5, 2008 0:33:55 GMT -5
i'm relieved that Obama won because i think he's a cool dude, and i think he'll be less bad for the world at large than McCain would have been.
but ultimately, true change will not happen. the united states is still enslaved to the same political and economic system. we are still slaves to the dollar and the flag.
how you live your life is far more important than the X you marked on a sheet of paper today. each day of your life, you vote with your hands, your mouth, your wallet. what if every person lived out the "change" they believe in rather than shrugging off the responsibility on some higher authority? what if every Jesus-follower dedicated him/herself to the eradication of poverty, injustice, and oppression, with personal sacrificial means rather than writing on a ballot?
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Post by darkbunny on Nov 5, 2008 0:50:39 GMT -5
I want you to be wrong so badly, but I know you're right : /
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Post by radar on Nov 6, 2008 0:52:41 GMT -5
how you live your life is far more important than the X you marked on a sheet of paper today. each day of your life, you vote with your hands, your mouth, your wallet. what if every person lived out the "change" they believe in rather than shrugging off the responsibility on some higher authority? what if every Jesus-follower dedicated him/herself to the eradication of poverty, injustice, and oppression, with personal sacrificial means rather than writing on a ballot? Hmmm...you went to the "Jesus for President" tour, didn't you?  |
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Post by behemoth on Nov 7, 2008 10:25:00 GMT -5
but ultimately, true change will not happen. the united states is still enslaved to the same political and economic system. we are still slaves to the dollar and the flag. Yes. how you live your life is far more important than the X you marked on a sheet of paper today. each day of your life, you vote with your hands, your mouth, your wallet. what if every person lived out the "change" they believe in rather than shrugging off the responsibility on some higher authority? what if every Jesus-follower dedicated him/herself to the eradication of poverty, injustice, and oppression, with personal sacrificial means rather than writing on a ballot? Double Yes. i'm relieved that Obama won because i think he's a cool dude, and i think he'll be less bad for the world at large than McCain would have been. No. I have nothing personal against Obama, but I fully believe that he will be every bit the douche-nozzle that McCain would have been, and that there was no possible positive outcome. |
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Post by amoyensis on Nov 7, 2008 11:18:37 GMT -5
how you live your life is far more important than the X you marked on a sheet of paper today. each day of your life, you vote with your hands, your mouth, your wallet. what if every person lived out the "change" they believe in rather than shrugging off the responsibility on some higher authority? what if every Jesus-follower dedicated him/herself to the eradication of poverty, injustice, and oppression, with personal sacrificial means rather than writing on a ballot? Hmmm...you went to the "Jesus for President" tour, didn't you? i wanted to. the only one i could have gone to was Toronto but i couldn't make it. monday night and all. |
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