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Post by Radiant Magnificence Alastair on Jul 6, 2011 0:47:53 GMT -5
Females are usually better at caring for children, or at least more interested.
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Post by skully on Jul 6, 2011 1:09:14 GMT -5
pfft, not this one. little kids annoy me
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Post by Scott on Jul 7, 2011 8:39:22 GMT -5
Disallowing women to have authority because of immodesty is a bit like throwing the baby out with the bath water If the real issue is immodesty, it wouldn't be sensible to command women to learn quietly, or not to teach (without any qualifications, such as "don't teach until you're modest") It seems to me women having authority or teaching is the issue, not the result of some other issue. Either way, it sure seems to say women shouldn't do those things, whatever the reason, so there's no reason to assume women are somehow more modest now (they're probably a lot less) or that wives are somehow more submissive these days (they're probably a lot less) This was poorly worded, but I have places to go, work to do What's interesting, though, is that in "they must be silent" there's already an assumption that no priest would be a woman, which was probably left over from the Hebrew tradition. Consider, though, how this distinction, if it is to be applied broadly, clashes with another letter that Paul wrote: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."
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Post by Paul on Jul 7, 2011 14:01:48 GMT -5
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Post by skully on Jul 7, 2011 18:45:13 GMT -5
well first of all i didn't mean to "use culture to supersade the Bible's teaching" and now that you mention it, yeah that was a terrible arguement. i'm no history buff but i am pretty sure there were a lot of female teachers if you go back a few hundred years as most men played the role of doing whatever it takes to get food on the table (in other words most women stayed home to teach their children while men went to work)
so to put it quite more frankly i just believe (like i put before) that if anyone has something to say that can benefit others regardless of the teacher's race, sex, etc, then they should be allowed to teach
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Post by Paul on Jul 7, 2011 21:59:08 GMT -5
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Post by Scott on Jul 8, 2011 11:44:34 GMT -5
Except not all of history has been like comparatively modern Western trends of female teachers I think that's a terrible argument because not only are you using culture to try and supersede the Bible's teaching (fit that view into the text we're talking about) but it's also not even accurate if you go back a few hundred years You're assuming I was using it as an argument. But if you would like... the primary purpose of a priest in the original church was not teaching.
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Post by Paul on Jul 8, 2011 12:01:14 GMT -5
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Post by skully on Jul 8, 2011 17:32:08 GMT -5
ok paul, so i see we just have slightly different opinions. but what i don't understand is how my opinion would be "re-wording the bible" like you sometimes say i am.
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