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Post by Brent on Dec 17, 2009 19:07:18 GMT -5
the Mayans predicted a lot of events, they must have divine origins!
Give me a break. Fulfilling prophecies has nothing to do with being divine, NOTHING. You cannot prove divinity this way, it is insufficient in proving a God from a logical stand-point. Your argument is just another argument from ignorance (i.e. fallacious) in this thread, you have a lot to learn dlectronic, no offense, but your arguments are weak sauce. You have a lot to learn, A LOT.
I'm not saying I'm perfect, but at least I know what is logical, and can recognize the fallacies the theists on these boards continue to spew.
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Post by Jacob on Dec 17, 2009 19:10:25 GMT -5
You have a lot to learn dlectronic, and since we are all here Brent shall teach us! Right,Brent?
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Post by Brent on Dec 17, 2009 19:21:53 GMT -5
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Post by Josh on Dec 17, 2009 22:02:44 GMT -5
oh my
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Post by dlectronic on Dec 18, 2009 2:50:27 GMT -5
Brent, you are very right in that: a) I have a ton to learn. I think my understanding on many things is extremely limited... b) I will NEVER be able to prove God to you or anybody, for that matter. For good reason, too. Christ wouldn't be a faith if you could. However, I believe that for reasons already stated on multiple occasions, God is the only logical piece to solve the puzzle of how/why we exist as we do. Its logically very clear to me that what I believe (God...aka something beyond our realm of time and space) is, quite simply a put, a must. If this outside force (or God, as I might put it) is not, I argue than it would have been immeasurably better for us to not exist at all. I should note, however, that strictly scientifically speaking, NOTHING is ever proven. Nothing. We test to disprove, not test to prove. If we fail at disproving, the something is rendered that much closer to being true. Ah and regarding the Mayans and prophecy. Many people and cultures attempted prophecy, but I wouldn't say any are close to being as profound and precise as those of the Bible. And furthermore, such accuracies are all contained in a book (the Bible) written on 3 continents, in 3 languages, over a 1500 year time span. Again, not PROOF for the Bible's divinity, but there's also no PROOF of anything... www.greatcom.org/resources/areadydefense/ch06/default.htmAgain, it's a Christian website, which seems will inevitably induce caps locked cussing, But please aim to read its contents objectively.
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Post by Jeremy on Dec 18, 2009 3:02:20 GMT -5
I should note, however, that strictly scientifically speaking, NOTHING is ever proven. Nothing. We test to disprove, not test to prove. If we fail at disproving, the something is rendered that much closer to being true. can you prove that statement is true?
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Post by dlectronic on Dec 18, 2009 3:08:47 GMT -5
I should note, however, that strictly scientifically speaking, NOTHING is ever proven. Nothing. We test to disprove, not test to prove. If we fail at disproving, the something is rendered that much closer to being true. can you prove that statement is true? Haha dang you. It would seem I said a fallacy! "There are ABSOLUTELY not absolutes!" makes no sense. The statement itself IS an absolute. However, I was referring to scientific studies, like measuring any force, or developing any theory. For example, gravity is assumed to be true because we have yet to find a spot in the universe where gravity does not work. So technically, if we found that spot in which gravity doesn't work, gravity would not be universally true. Does this make sense?
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Post by Jeremy on Dec 18, 2009 3:16:51 GMT -5
I have faith that it does make sense.
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Post by Ferd Berfel on Dec 18, 2009 6:31:21 GMT -5
Alright, children, that's enough of that.
I tried to give this debate a chance to turn around, and it's the same thing that has been going on for ages in this section of the board.
This thread is locked. Stop debating this topic in this forum.
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