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Post by Brent on Mar 12, 2010 22:15:27 GMT -5
so basically the bible says all you need to enter heaven is to believe
then it says
you need to be baptized to enter heaven
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Post by Radiant Magnificence Alastair on Mar 12, 2010 22:19:02 GMT -5
The man on the cross (next to Jesus) who repented before he died did not require a baptism to enter the kingdom of God.
You won't enter heaven if you only believe, there are some (including satan and some satanists) who believe that Jesus is God etc.
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Post by scribe on Mar 12, 2010 22:24:46 GMT -5
Baptism comes in forms other than by water; if it is the only way, baptism by desire and baptism by blood are the same as traditional baptism. I believe baptism by desire applies to the thief on the cross.
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Post by dlectronic on Mar 15, 2010 22:47:44 GMT -5
@brent
You keep this forum alive my friend. Had you not kept posting stuff I'de have prolly left haha. Anywho Ide like to assess your original topic (as I have not been really paying a ton of attention to this other off topic babble).
Do you expect to qualify your mindset by posting a video tagged with no more than "This guy is a douche"? On the contrary, you make me think less of your claim right off the bat because of such crass, unjustified words.
Moving on...I fail to see why this man is a "douche" or, as some have said, "gives the rest of us Christians a terrible name". Ide like to present my differing opinion by posing a question to you:
Would it be wrong if I came to your home and shot your mother in the arm twice before slitting her throat?... then subsequently hung 40,000 blacks on trees outside, followed by me suffocating my mom?
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Post by phillip on Mar 16, 2010 21:57:59 GMT -5
Wait... you can do that?
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Post by Radiant Magnificence Alastair on Mar 16, 2010 22:20:00 GMT -5
You can in fiction.
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Post by Jeremy on Mar 17, 2010 0:08:07 GMT -5
I must say, it takes determination to not stop at 30,000....... must be a redwood.
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Post by Patrick on Mar 17, 2010 0:36:06 GMT -5
What's up with the last five posts? I don't get it. Inside joke?
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Post by dlectronic on Mar 17, 2010 1:18:06 GMT -5
Ha, I guess we here on the forum have an odd way of addressing that some things are indeed wrong.
But in a Godless existence, it makes no difference whether or not I hang people on redwoods, or if I wipe out galaxies for fun, or if I donate $2 to the salvation army; such occurrences would be no more than simple events of time. Ha, by no means would 'good' and 'bad' be more than illusory inner feelings.
The "moral" seems to render such a Godless universe absurd.
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Post by Muffy on Mar 17, 2010 9:15:51 GMT -5
And yet if we lived in a truly moral-less world, it would not be absurd.
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Post by Maarten on Mar 17, 2010 10:57:29 GMT -5
Eh, I suppose a Godless worldview would explain the existence of morals as something cultural or something that evolved because it is beneficial because it causes humans to be able to live in groups in a normal way. So I don't think that Godless is a synonym for immoral.
However if one thinks out of a Godless worldview, wouldn't morals be some fake manmade concept? If that's the case, then wouldn't it be better to simply forget the concept altogether and think in terms of whether it's beneficial or not to act in a certain way, completely ignoring your emotions?
Meh, I hate to think that way, it makes me depressed.
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Post by runny on Mar 17, 2010 11:09:58 GMT -5
Morals are good for the benefit of humanity
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Post by Jeremy on Mar 17, 2010 11:20:59 GMT -5
they are not beneficial for the individual (or the individuals offspring for that matter)
(speaking for a non-biblical stand point)
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Post by runny on Mar 17, 2010 11:35:29 GMT -5
for keeping society alive it is.
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Post by Maarten on Mar 17, 2010 11:51:14 GMT -5
Why should I care about society? As long as I'm happy it'll do.
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