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Post by Patrick on Mar 30, 2010 3:43:10 GMT -5
Definitely one of the most Because of the countless amounts of Christian teenage guys who cry that they lust too much and they need prayer and annoying s**t like that. This link is what I've wanted to refute them with for a long time, it is evidence showing that guys produce more testosterone during adolescence, a s**tload more. Looking at girls is natural, but Christians twist this around and say its not but God did it to test each person. Why would he test guys and not women? It's just more s**t on top of the dung sundae that is religion. Men have to deal with their testosterone, but you forget about women and their estrogen. While women aren't sexually wired the same way men are, they have their own set of relationship problems to deal with. Which is why, once again, that I'm agnostic. However, I am against the idea of a Christian God, because, as I've stated a million times before, he is a hypocrite and cannot be all-good and all-evil at the same time, its contradicting. No Christian believes that God is all good and all evil. If you find one, let me know.
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Post by Brent on Mar 30, 2010 5:01:04 GMT -5
Women are a mess.
I never said Christians believe their god is all good and all evil, they just think he's all good, but if he is omnipotent and omnipresent, he is therefore responsible for all the evil in the world. I've gone over the Problem of Evil so many times I've lost count. It is still my best argument against the Christian God.
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Post by Jeremy on Mar 30, 2010 5:16:01 GMT -5
"Because I wanted them to help themselves...to know the difference between right and wrong without my having to tell them. It is all meaningless if I have to force them to do anything."
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Post by davo on Mar 30, 2010 11:01:39 GMT -5
interesting read.
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Post by Zhou Tai 04 on Mar 30, 2010 11:55:25 GMT -5
I never said Christians believe their god is all good and all evil, they just think he's all good, but if he is omnipotent and omnipresent, he is therefore responsible for all the evil in the world. I've gone over the Problem of Evil so many times I've lost count. It is still my best argument against the Christian God. So I guess you think free will doesn't exist?
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Post by augustwinterman on Mar 30, 2010 13:34:05 GMT -5
Can we at least have one discussion in this section without Brent constantly being a f**king tool?
Yeah, didn't think so.
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Post by Josh on Mar 30, 2010 13:36:38 GMT -5
Callin brent out
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Post by runny on Mar 30, 2010 13:37:23 GMT -5
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Post by Brent on Mar 30, 2010 16:12:19 GMT -5
I never said Christians believe their god is all good and all evil, they just think he's all good, but if he is omnipotent and omnipresent, he is therefore responsible for all the evil in the world. I've gone over the Problem of Evil so many times I've lost count. It is still my best argument against the Christian God. So I guess you think free will doesn't exist? I've been over this a thousand times, free-will defense fails. I'm not going over it again, wikipedia is your friend
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Post by Jeremy on Mar 30, 2010 16:45:08 GMT -5
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Post by conner on Mar 30, 2010 18:35:44 GMT -5
And with this homosexuality makes even less sense. It does make sense. Gay men look at men the same way that straight men look at women. Why?
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Post by Patrick on Mar 30, 2010 18:52:19 GMT -5
Because they are attracted more to people of the same-sex than to the opposite sex. Now why they have those sorts of attractions is more uncertain and a subject of many speculations. From what I've heard and read, most gay people wouldn't even be able to tell you why. No one in their right mind would rather be gay than straight, so I think it has a lot to do with a person's subconscious.
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Post by scribe on Mar 30, 2010 19:01:44 GMT -5
Women are a mess. I never said Christians believe their god is all good and all evil, they just think he's all good, but if he is omnipotent and omnipresent, he is therefore responsible for all the evil in the world. I've gone over the Problem of Evil so many times I've lost count. It is still my best argument against the Christian God. 'Evil is the lack (or privation) of a good that should be present in a thing. For example, blindness is a physical evil because it is the absence of the ability to see, which is proper to a human being. In moral terms, sin is the absence of a particular virtue in a person. As such, evil is not something that exists in itself; it is merely the absence of the good.' Evil is therefore the absence of things of God, and God cannot be responsible for the causes of evil in the world because he is an infinite being. An infinite being cannot be evil because to degrade itself, it would have to desire something disordered. Having all the fullness of being in itself, it cannot desire anything outside of itself. As such, the possibility of an infinite lack (i.e., evil) in an infinite being is logically and metaphysically impossible.
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Post by Jacob on Mar 30, 2010 19:39:22 GMT -5
Sex is good.
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Post by Brent on Mar 30, 2010 20:44:12 GMT -5
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