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Post by Brent on Mar 29, 2010 15:03:23 GMT -5
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Post by Patrick on Mar 29, 2010 15:32:35 GMT -5
Very interesting. Thanks for posting this, but this in no way debunks any of my opinions, it confirms them. The point of the rules set out in the Bible is that they are impossible for anyone to fulfill in their own strength. Everything from the commandments of the Old Testament to the rules Jesus laid out where meant to make us aware of our human imperfection and need for God and His grace. In short, the law is good and it is important to follow, but it is impossible for anyone to fulfill.
It's all a matter of one's point of view, and I aknowledge that you have a different one. These facts create doubt in one's mind, but belief in another person's mind. Facts are not greater than faith. They are two different things that can confirm eachother if they are both working well.
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Post by Brent on Mar 29, 2010 15:39:24 GMT -5
try saying this to a scientist. Faith only works if something is plausible within the universe/laws of the universe, not outside the universe.
Having faith in sentient pants and pills which give you immortality, for example. You can have all the faith you want but no facts
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Post by Josh on Mar 29, 2010 17:06:14 GMT -5
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Post by Jeremy on Mar 29, 2010 18:51:11 GMT -5
....um, ok.
"Don't let them ever tell you different
Women are just as horny as men
They're just programmed inhibition" - 86 Measures of Game
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Post by Jacob on Mar 29, 2010 20:21:42 GMT -5
Definitely one of the most interesting things I've ever read.
Why is this in FB&O? This is fact, not opinion.
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Post by conner on Mar 29, 2010 22:18:04 GMT -5
And with this homosexuality makes even less sense.
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Post by Patrick on Mar 29, 2010 23:10:22 GMT -5
try saying this to a scientist. Faith only works if something is plausible within the universe/laws of the universe, not outside the universe. Having faith in sentient pants and pills which give you immortality, for example. You can have all the faith you want but no facts Tell it to any brilliant mathematician, and it will be quite realistic for him or her. Most mathematical (the only perfect science) discoveries have been made because the mathematician first believed something to be true, then over a long and painstaking process (often many decades) he found the facts that backed up his beliefs. Math proves that there are always more mysteries in the universe (things we can't yet wrap our minds around), and they are discovered by people brave enough to waste their lives on something that seems absurd by common standards, but turns out to be highly practical. Apply this mentality to everyday life, and the most rational drive would be to entertain the idea of God until you begin finding Him, find nothing, or find something else. If you see a problem in your own life, have the drive and the patience to learn problem solving, then you can begin to uncover the solution piece by piece (as the Bible says "precept upon precept"). It is mathematically short-sighted to dismiss the possibility of God, especially while many of your coleagues (fellow humans) claim to be discovering Him. |
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Post by Patrick on Mar 29, 2010 23:14:56 GMT -5
And with this homosexuality makes even less sense. It does make sense. Gay men look at men the same way that straight men look at women. |
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Post by Muffy on Mar 30, 2010 1:21:06 GMT -5
Yes, which means something is terribly f**king wrong with a gay person. They're retarded if you extrapolate this...
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Post by Patrick on Mar 30, 2010 1:47:34 GMT -5
What's to say something is not terribly f**king wrong with everybody?
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Post by Muffy on Mar 30, 2010 1:57:31 GMT -5
Not everyone is mentally screwed.
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Post by Patrick on Mar 30, 2010 2:46:40 GMT -5
Well maybe everybody is. The Bible's premise is that humanity is messed up and needs help. I buy that. If you look at the world now and back through history, I'm sure you will see that humanity is very screwed up.
And why do you think gays are retarded? Attractions are things that people can't control. Actions are, but that's a different story.
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Post by Brent on Mar 30, 2010 3:21:38 GMT -5
Definitely one of the most interesting things I've ever read. Why is this in FB&O? This is fact, not opinion. Because of the countless amounts of Christian teenage guys who cry that they lust too much and they need prayer and annoying s**t like that. This link is what I've wanted to refute them with for a long time, it is evidence showing that guys produce more testosterone during adolescence, a s**tload more. Looking at girls is natural, but Christians twist this around and say its not but God did it to test each person. Why would he test guys and not women? It's just more s**t on top of the dung sundae that is religion. Which is why, once again, that I'm agnostic. However, I am against the idea of a Christian God, because, as I've stated a million times before, he is a hypocrite and cannot be all-good and all-evil at the same time, its contradicting. |
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Post by Muffy on Mar 30, 2010 3:35:46 GMT -5
Well maybe everybody is. The Bible's premise is that humanity is messed up and needs help. I buy that. If you look at the world now and back through history, I'm sure you will see that humanity is very screwed up. And why do you think gays are retarded? Attractions are things that people can't control. Actions are, but that's a different story. Yeah, everyone's messed up, in different ways. You are assuming that being messed up is a definition of sin, when it could be that sin is a definition of being messed up. Do you see the difference? Why do I think gays are retarded? The attraction is natural, and that's not a problem. But I think anything further than that isn't. |
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