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Post by Brent on May 12, 2010 23:10:17 GMT -5
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Post by Jeremy on May 13, 2010 0:07:27 GMT -5
I perspire to become a Monied Yuppie.
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Post by notavailable on May 13, 2010 1:59:31 GMT -5
f**k christianity. especially this kind.
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Post by Muffy on May 13, 2010 4:51:55 GMT -5
What a joke.
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Post by Zhou Tai 04 on May 13, 2010 16:03:25 GMT -5
I inspire to become a Monied Yuppie. aspire, not inspire Here's an interview with the author, with the most relevant points copied here. rachelheldevans.com/hipster-christianityDo you identify with certain elements of hipster Christianity yourself? Which ones? Definitely. I identify with hipster Christianity's interest in social justice and thinking about how the church is meant to be for the world (i.e. the Gospel as positive, transformative power) as opposed to against it. I identify with the way it appreciates art, culture, conversation, ideas, books, etc. I appreciate the way it attempts to correct the anti-intellectual and anti-culture strains of former eras of evangelicalism. I appreciate its attempts to recover ancient practices of the church, even if it sometimes feels anachronistic or maddeningly ala carte. What made you decide that hipster Christianity was worth writing an entire book about (as opposed to an article or blog post)? Why is it so important? It started as an article for Relevant magazine ("A New Kind of Hipster") which got a big response back in 2005. I think I decided to pursue it as a full book because I came to realize that the somewhat specific culture of "hipster Christianity" was actually indicative of much broader tensions and paradoxes in contemporary Christianity dealing with identity, image, and the question of cool. Since at least the 1960s, evangelicalism has been wrestling with how it should position itself vis-a-vis the broader popular culture: it's youth obsession, the marketing emphasis, prominence of media, etc. As a result, the church is often trying to brand itself according to what is currently trendy or fashionable, and all of this has major implications for how we think about the church and what we should be in and for the world. What are some of the redemptive elements of hipster Christianity? I actually have a chapter of my book called "Authentic Christian Cool," where I talk about the redemptive parts of hipster culture and under what circumstances hipster is a good thing for the church. I talk about the positive traits of hipster culture, such as the celebration of culture and "good things" (loving food, nature, art, etc), and the way that hipsters seem to genuinely appreciate God's creation and are curious and awestruck by it. I also think that to some extent, the "hipster" mentality of being different and not following the pack can lend itself well to Christianity, if the "difference" we are committed to is biblical and not just some nebulous "rebellious/subversive/countercultural" commitment. Which elements do you perceive as being problematic?I think there are certain essential elements to the nature of "cool" that are fundamentally at odds with Christianity, thus making "hipster Christianity" a problematic fusion. For example, "cool" is all about self-obsession and narcissism, while Christianity calls us to be selfless and giving. "Cool" is about elitism, exclusivity, and arrogance, while Christianity is about humility, inclusivity and loving others. "Cool" is about style, irony, and transience, while Christianity is about substance, sincerity, and transcendence. There are just so many points at which cool and Christianity seem irreconcilable. I think one of the big ones that a lot of us have experienced first-hand is the way that "hipster Christianity" can seem alienating. Some of the churches I've visited were so hip and so full of well-dressed hipsters that I felt like such an uncool outsider. It makes you feel self-conscious. Makes you feel alienated. And what kind of feeling is that to have in a church? I'd hate to ever make "uncool" visitors feel like they weren't cool enough to be in a church! It seems to me that in the New Testament, Paul is especially adamant on the point (in I Corinthians 10-11, for example), that Christianity is no place for the flaunting of privilege or distinction (whether class or ethnic or whatever), and I think that is exactly what happens anytime you have a church were some members are cool and know it (and flaunt it), while others are not so much. Was Jesus “hip”? Might “hipster Christianity” be a contradiction in terms?The second part of this question is answered above, but as for the first: I think we often try to make Jesus fit our image of what we ourselves want to be. It's convenient for hipsters to paint Jesus in terms of "insurrectionist/revolutionary" or "sandal-wearing desert-roaming hippie," but I hesitate to call Jesus a hipster or even "hip." You didn't see Jesus wearing ostentatious jewelry or designer tunics. He had "nothing in his appearance that we should desire him" (Is. 53:2). He was definitely a nonconformist in a lot of ways (the things he said and taught were pretty radical), though he was also the biggest conformist in all of history if you think about him being the only person to perfectly abide by the law and conform to the pattern of humanity as God originally intended.
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Post by Josh on May 13, 2010 16:21:15 GMT -5
LOL
omg what a loser.
Your Christian Hipster Quotient: 67 / 120 Low CHQ. You probably belong to the purpose-driven, seeker-sensitive, Hawaiian shirt-wearing Christian establishment, even though you are open to some of the "rethinking Christianity" stuff. You seem to like edginess in some measure but become uneasy when your idea of Christian orthodoxy is challenged by some renegade young visionary who claims the virgin birth isn't necessary.
took the test
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Post by Jacob on May 13, 2010 16:50:52 GMT -5
Same thing: Your Christian Hipster Quotient: 48 / 120
But to be honest, I had to look up half of the words in the quiz.
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Post by Jeremy on May 13, 2010 17:21:56 GMT -5
55 / 120
*some questions I didn't understand and just guessed
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Post by radar on May 13, 2010 23:18:17 GMT -5
This depresses me.
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Post by Jeremy on May 13, 2010 23:49:24 GMT -5
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Post by notavailable on May 14, 2010 2:24:27 GMT -5
OMFGLOL @ the interview. What a joke. What a f**king joke.
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Post by Shiv on May 14, 2010 3:02:07 GMT -5
f**k christianity. especially this kind. Can't sleep clowns will eat you?
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Post by Zhou Tai 04 on May 15, 2010 0:47:24 GMT -5
OMFGLOL @ the interview. What a joke. What a f**king joke. What is likely the case is that you simply have a chip on your shoulder that's keeping you from seeing it objectively.
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Post by Shiv on May 15, 2010 3:07:45 GMT -5
OMFGLOL @ the interview. What a joke. What a f**king joke. What is likely the case is that you simply have a chip on your shoulder that's keeping you from seeing it objectively. Hence my post
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Post by Scott on May 15, 2010 8:30:23 GMT -5
Some of the quiz questions didn't have the answers I really wanted to respond with.
Your Christian Hipster Quotient: 80 / 120
High CHQ. You are a pretty progressive, stylish, hipster-leaning Christian, even while you could easily feel at home in a decidedly un-hip non-denominational church. You are conservative on some issues and liberal on others, and sometimes you grow weary of trendy "alt-Christianity." But make no mistake: You are a Christian hipster to at least some degree.
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