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Post by Brent on Jan 10, 2010 16:36:32 GMT -5
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Post by Jeremy on Jan 10, 2010 17:08:05 GMT -5
(according to Disney)
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Post by davo on Jan 10, 2010 17:13:56 GMT -5
no. it doesn't.
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Post by Josh on Jan 10, 2010 23:25:51 GMT -5
they explain it in this vid.
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Post by notavailable on Jan 11, 2010 2:02:39 GMT -5
bible says that the hebrews were slaves and built errant s**t for the pharoah, not including the pyramids. if my history is correct, the pyramids were there long before the hebrews.
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Post by Ferd Berfel on Jan 11, 2010 3:25:04 GMT -5
^ All of the above. The Hebrews were slaves, but nothing says that they built the pyramids. It's just easier to say that they built the pyramids in Sunday school classes, rather than explaining the menial lives of slaves.
Also, the Prince of Egypt was only mildly entertaining.
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Post by notavailable on Jan 11, 2010 3:29:55 GMT -5
But the music was the best part.
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Post by Zhou Tai 04 on Jan 11, 2010 21:44:53 GMT -5
I've read some sources a while back that stated the Hebrews were never massively enslaved by the Egyptians, and that there is really no archaelogical evidence pointing to that ever happening.
(Also, I already knew that the pyramids were built by skilled Egyptian workers. I've watched tons of documentaries on Egyptian history.)
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Post by nofarttoofar on Jan 11, 2010 22:09:13 GMT -5
Karl Sanders already knew this.
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Post by Azrael on Jan 11, 2010 22:22:38 GMT -5
I've read some sources a while back that stated the Hebrews were never massively enslaved by the Egyptians, and that there is really no archaelogical evidence pointing to that ever happening. (Also, I already knew that the pyramids were built by skilled Egyptian workers. I've watched tons of documentaries on Egyptian history.) Yes, I'm familiar with this approach, however the anthropologists who pioneered this one didn't really do their homework. Are we all familiar with the story of Joseph? The one with the technicolor dream-coat if we're going by musicals. If not, here's the skinny. He got sold into slavery as a child by his 10 siblings. He eventually ended up in Egypt. He ended up as an advisor to Pharaoh when the Pharaoh needed some dreams interpreted. Eventually, Joseph's family began to starve, as the prophecy he gave for the king's dream detailed a seven year famine. Joseph brought his family and the Pharaoh allowed them to live in Egypt as equal freemen with the Egyptians. Why? Because this line of Pharaohs were referred to as the "Shepherd Kings." They had a common bloodline with the children of Abraham, and were quite possibly of Hebrew descent themselves. This makes the very abrupt and sudden advent of the Israelites as slaves make sense. The Shepherd Kings were thrown from power by the next dynasty who had no such ties to the Israelites. How do you get rid of a massive population in your own country who owns a significant share of the land and has equal rights to your own people? You don't. You give him a yolk and tell him to work for his living and the right to live on your land. What the anthropologists were looking for was some sort of evidence of cultural upheaval, a clash between the Egyptians and some other group that inhabited the land. They didn't find anything. That's because there was no cultural upheaval. The Israelites lived happily as Egyptians with their distant cousins in power for many years until they were so integrated into Egyptian life that when Pharaoh decreed the status of Israelites as slaves, they were already culturally assimilated into Egypt, except for their own religious beliefs. Why do you think God was so specific when he gave the laws in Deuteronomy and Leviticus? Surely these people already know the rules since their culture followed God and his protocols as their fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob had. No, they were fully assimilated to Egyptian life, and some of the Egyptian beliefs had started to bleed into their own Hebrew rules about God. That's why God gave two of the longest books of the Bible that definitively state what it means to live as a God-fearing Hebrew. Also, one might try to argue that since the Egyptians gave no record of the Hebrew enslavement, it never happened. That is rather fallacious. We are used to considering America and its up-front admission of guilt in the use of slaves. This is a unique historical example. Other nations never admit that the corner-stone of their society was built by another race, but rather attempt to hide it. Half the Caribbean was built by Irish slaves. There's a monument to the ones that died at St. Kitts. In fact, a quick and easy way to tell whether an African American is of Jamaican descent is by whether they have an Irish (or Irish-style) last name (McNabb, McNair, Fitzgerald, etc.) Most Empires were built on the backs of slaves. Almost all try to hide it. America was one of the few to maintain some degree of honesty concerning its sordid past. It is certainly the exception to the rule. The sad fact is that these anthropologists went in with an agenda, and confirmation-bias did the rest of their work for them. |
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Post by Shiv on Jan 19, 2010 22:11:47 GMT -5
they explain it in this vid. Ok I lol'd hard |
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Post by Josh on Jan 20, 2010 0:24:57 GMT -5
"In my country of Egypt we dont use slaves to build pyramids...
...we use women, iz nice."
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Post by Ferd Berfel on Jan 20, 2010 3:44:38 GMT -5
"This little boy, he has saved me. Maybe he not as Jewish as I first thought."
"I am sorry for screwing with your mind. I must return now to my homeland of Egypt despite not finding who stole my millennium item."
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