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Post by Patrick on Mar 9, 2010 14:51:35 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNh1MYZiNswI don't agree 100% with everything this man says, but most of it rings true to me. He has some excellent wisdom, and listening to him has helped me view the world with more clarity.
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Post by Muffy on Mar 9, 2010 16:36:10 GMT -5
So, being mentally healthy is stupid.
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Post by Patrick on Mar 9, 2010 19:03:10 GMT -5
No, being mentally healthy is good because it makes it easier to do what's right, but being mentally unhealthy doesn't give someone an excuse to do what's wrong. I'm sure Prager would argue that if a person continuously wanted to do bad, but chose to do good anyway that it would actually be good for his/her mental health.
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Post by Radiant Magnificence Alastair on Mar 9, 2010 19:22:34 GMT -5
Wow, he is so utterly retarded. I feel sorry for him. Woe to those who listen to this.
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Post by Patrick on Mar 9, 2010 23:09:46 GMT -5
How so?
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Post by Jeremy on Mar 10, 2010 3:42:29 GMT -5
I've heard Prager on the radio so many times and I never realized he was so damn sexy. Sorry but due to the lolz this brang me I couldn't really listen to much he said. I totally lost it at the old woman in the wheel chair. I must be tired.
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Post by Patrick on Mar 10, 2010 14:22:10 GMT -5
Haha, lol!
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Post by scribe on Mar 10, 2010 16:18:59 GMT -5
rofl, lmao!  |
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Post by Metzuda on Apr 25, 2010 23:17:43 GMT -5
I agree to some point, but also immediately thought of this:
"You have heard that it was said, 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY'; but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart." (Matthew 5:27,28)
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Post by Patrick on Apr 26, 2010 1:26:17 GMT -5
I agree with Prager's point that thoughts and intentions rarely matter in how people deal with eachother because we cannot know eachother's thoughts and intentions. They are a personal matter between the person, his God, and his conscience. I believe we should be more concerned with our actions because they are what really make an impact, and they are things that are under our immediate control.
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Post by Radiant Magnificence Alastair on Apr 26, 2010 4:04:20 GMT -5
they are things that are under our immediate control. And thoughts aren't? lol |
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Post by Patrick on Apr 26, 2010 13:08:23 GMT -5
No, I've had plenty of things pop into my mind that I didn't want to think about. I don't know if it's like this for everyone, but it is for me and many people I've talked to.
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Post by Metzuda on Apr 27, 2010 2:33:21 GMT -5
I agree with Prager's point that thoughts and intentions rarely matter in how people deal with eachother because we cannot know eachother's thoughts and intentions. They are a personal matter between the person, his God, and his conscience. I believe we should be more concerned with our actions because they are what really make an impact, and they are things that are under our immediate control. I understand what you're saying, but I do not agree. Any mature Christian will tell you that actions do not start with actions, they start with thoughts. Considering the interviewee that Prager is testifying; if the man allows such thoughts as " I wish she would just expire" to grow and fester unchecked, then they will begin to come out in action. "As a man thinks in his heart, so is he (Proverbs 23:7). The best situation we can assume above is that those thoughts are not a constant and the man is putting them down; his activity then in improving his thoughts are what keeps him good, not that he is doing good things. This is what Paul refers to as "taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ" in 2 Corinthians 10:5. In the end, I think Prager's advice is short-sighted. Yes, the benefit short and long term of your actions is what you are judged by from people around you, but those those actions are governed, ultimately, by your desires, and those desires are what drive your thoughts. If my body wants sex, I will probably think about sex, and if I do not find a greater desire, or if I willingly feed that desire (e.g. observing pornography) so that it grows, that desire will be what rules my actions. If I choose to subdue that desire (take a cold shower) or find a greater desire (knowing that my holiness glorifies God, I run to Him in my struggle) then that desire will rule my actions. As I said earlier... I think our actions are reflections of the thoughts that we allow to rule us. Just because the guy has bad thoughts doesn't mean that he's a bad person, rather that he's a fallen creature. If he let those thoughts fester, he wil become a "bad son" because his actions will begin to reflect what he feels internally. |
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Post by Patrick on Apr 27, 2010 4:03:15 GMT -5
Any sane person with a good grasp of morality would not take action on such thoughts as killing one's mom. The guy is simply taking care of her because he knows it's the right thing to do whether he feels like it or not. His wish that "her illness would just take her away" stems from the fact that doing the right thing (taking care of her) isn't particulary pleasant. In Christianese we would say, "it's his flesh speaking." The best thing to do when that happens is to simply disobey it. He's taking his thoughts captive and bringing them back to reality by taking care of his mother. The bigger truth is that he knows it's the right thing to do and he must do it.
I also don't know if the guy is a Christian. Prager's not; he's Jewish. I don't listen to him for theology, but because he has a better grasp on common sense than I do.
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Post by Jacob on Apr 29, 2010 20:18:04 GMT -5
"who needs action when you got words" - Meat Puppets
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