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Post by countseth on Jan 12, 2005 12:27:10 GMT -5
In general, I'd like to discuss the organization known as the Masonic Lodge. first, though, I wanted to ask you, Laura, about that quote at the bottom of your posts. The one by Albert Pike. Is that the Grand Master Albert Pike and author of "Morals and Dogma"? Either way, I've spent hundreds of hours researching both French and English Freemasonry and their ties to tons of things in the past. Please state your opinions and/or ask questions.
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Post by Laura on Jan 13, 2005 23:23:25 GMT -5
Hmm...I'm guessing it's the "grand master" hahahaha.
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Post by Ender on Jan 14, 2005 17:19:22 GMT -5
From what I've seen of it, is that it is very ritualistic, and almost satanic... But I haven't seen much, So I can't really say too much on it. Correct me if im wrong.
And sorry to anyone who is a Mason, for that comment.
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Post by countseth on Jan 14, 2005 19:46:55 GMT -5
Ender, you're very correct. It's a relevant issue to me because I happen to be a member of a Baptist Church and I know several deacons who are Masons and I've heard that somewhere around 7%-10% of baptist pastors are in the masonic lodge. The secrecy, the worship of the "divine architect" (whom the 33rd degree masons know as Lucifer) are serious issues when a leader in a church is involved. Other denominations have similar statistics so I don't want people to be ignorant of such an important issue, because most people are affected by the Masons in some way or another. Like Ender said, I'm not trying to bash anyone who is a Mason because many people enter into it unknowingly. There is a dangerous power in that group of people and it affects many church hierarchies.
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Post by Ender on Jan 15, 2005 10:54:35 GMT -5
"The dwarves... They delved too deep..."
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Post by spunj13 on Jan 16, 2005 16:33:48 GMT -5
i have a friend who used to be in masons...
he told her (and also said this was all he could say) was that if he revealed any masonic secrets that his tongue would be cut out and his mouth filled with sand...
seems very...odd and suspicious to me. i don't know much about masons and won't claim to... but what i have heard seems rather...wrong to me. it also bears some very close resemblences to mormonism (which i know a bit more about)
[spunj13]
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Post by Laura on Jan 16, 2005 20:46:19 GMT -5
Wow...weird..
*does her own research*
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Post by Laura on Jan 16, 2005 21:02:04 GMT -5
"Freemasonry is one of the world's oldest secular fraternal societies. Freemasonry is a society of men concerned with moral and spiritual values. Its members are taught its precepts by a series of ritual dramas, which follow ancient forms and use stonemasons' customs and tools as allegorical guides. The essential qualification for admission into and continuing membership is a belief in a Supreme Being. Membership is open to men of any race or religion who can fulfil this essential qualification and are of good repute. Freemasonry is not a religion, nor is it a substitute for religion. Its essential qualification opens it to men of many religions and it expects them to continue to follow their own faith. It does not allow religion to be discussed at its meetings. For many years Freemasons have followed three great principles: Brotherly Love: Every true Freemason will show tolerance and respect for the opinions of others and behave with kindness and understanding to his fellow creatures. Relief: Freemasons are taught to practise charity, and to care, not only for their own, but also for the community as a whole, both by charitable giving, and by voluntary efforts and works as individuals. Truth: Freemasons strive for truth, requiring high moral standards and aiming to achieve them in their own lives. Freemasons believe that these principles represent a way of achieving higher standards in life. From its earliest days, Freemasonry has been concerned with the care of orphans, the sick and the aged. This work continues today. In addition, large sums are given to national and local charities. The secrets of Freemasonry are concerned with its traditional modes of recognition. It is not a secret society, since all members are free to acknowledge their membership and will do so in response to inquiries for respectable reasons. Its constitutions and rules are available to the public. There is no secret about any of its aims and principles. Like many other societies, it regards some of its internal affairs as private matters for its members. Freemasonry is non-political, and the discussion of politics at Masonic meetings is forbidden. A Freemason is encouraged to do his duty first to his God (by whatever name he is known) through his faith and religious practice; and then, without detriment to his family and those dependent on him, to his neighbour through charity and service."Ok, here's a few other sites I found that give kind of a general background on Freemasons and the likes.....hope it helps. www.crystalinks.com/freemasons.htmlwatch.pair.com/mason.htmlwww.geocities.com/freemasonry_masons/texts/ugle_charges.html
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Post by countseth on Jan 16, 2005 22:12:23 GMT -5
hey guys, if you want more information on this, go to firestream.net and click on the theology forum, then on the freemasons. I'm BTA. Lots of posts and information from someone else on something I think is important.
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Post by Wisdom on Jan 16, 2005 23:09:46 GMT -5
hey guys, if you want more information on this, go to firestream.net and click on the theology forum, then on the freemasons. I'm BTA. Lots of posts and information from someone else on something I think is important. well actually BTA is my username on firestream but since Count Seth knows a whole lot more about this he is taking over that thread. anywho...sorry to take the wind our of your sails Count.
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Post by JohnnyMetal on Jan 17, 2005 20:46:27 GMT -5
There is a hilarious sketch of Monty Python where they talk about identifying a freemason.
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Post by The Sorrowful Tears on Apr 2, 2005 21:31:25 GMT -5
I found something today about the layout of Washington D.C. as it pertains to freemasons and satan. It's actually quite interesting and really makes you think. It's a little long but it's got enough information that you don't get bored and it's not too wordy. Check it out... www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=9421
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Post by Laura on Apr 3, 2005 11:30:51 GMT -5
"This is why our study today is so critical; it demonstrates, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that our leadership has knowingly and consistently been pursuing a hidden agenda......"
Hahahahahahahaha politicians are ALWAYS pursuing a hidden agenda. Some are just better at keeping it hidden than others.
*laughing harder now* That's so funny that the Whitehouse is the bottom point in the Goathead's Pentagram (which represents Satan).
One thing I don't like....they keep referring to Satan as Lucifer. His name isn't Lucifer anymore, that was his angelic name and when he was cast out of Heaven, he became Satan (or the devil or whatever you wish to call him now).
Ok, fascinating stuff on that website. But does anyone honestly believe that our politicians realize what that article is preaching? Most politicians are inherently ignorant. Most of them, not all, mind you. My personal view on this, yes I do believe what the article was saying, it's MORE than possible. But I don't believe many politicians actually KNOW about it.
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Post by cherryx on Apr 5, 2005 18:48:54 GMT -5
i do.
i get to drive by the Masonic Temple in Old Town Alexandria (about 5 mins from my parents house) Virginia and having been raised in a very religious right household...they know exactly what theyre doing.
Theres ALOT of shady stuff the politicans know about.
They have no interest in you or I or the welfare of the people...I hate to burst your bubble.Its a place run amuck with money and greed and power.Thats simply all.Thats what sickens me so much about it...because its very much a game of who is better than who about lying to someones face about empty promises.
Blah.I need to stop before this gets away from the Masons.
But back to the subject at hand...theres shady stuff involved with Masons.Id love to study it indepth one of these days.
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Post by cherryx on Apr 5, 2005 19:01:17 GMT -5
I found something today about the layout of Washington D.C. as it pertains to freemasons and satan. It's actually quite interesting and really makes you think. It's a little long but it's got enough information that you don't get bored and it's not too wordy. Check it out... www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=9421as soon as i read this i had to laugh really hard and throw the bit of logic this article couldve had... Look again at the United States Capitol(above). At the extreme Eastern side of the Capitol, you can see two cul-de-sacs which are irregularly shaped. In fact, when you draw a bold black line carefully around these cul-de-sacs, and continue the black line around the Capitol, you get the appearance of a fat bunny's head, with the cul-de-sacs as his ears. This is not accidental, either. The head and ears of the bunny attach to the stick figures of the legs of the compass, which are meant to be the legs of the bunny. Further, the Mason's Square form stick-figure arms of the bunny. This representation is critically important, because ancient Satanists drew Satan in just this stick figure way, including the fat bunny head and his ears. This is another way of representing Satan.
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