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Post by Brent on Jan 27, 2010 4:39:00 GMT -5
This speaker came to my school today and talked about how his porn addiction cost him his wife and kids, he had an affair but found out the chick was a loose slut who was banging 5 other guys.
It was so obvious he was gonna talk about how he was saved and how God helped him, which he did. Spouting non-sense like "I know God is real" and "Jesus has a plan" all that generic stuff. Closed his message with: "Are you going to Heaven or Hell?
Cool story bro time:
He had an open mic, and I asked him that question I asked you guys awhile ago, the scenario where a guy rapes and kills his daughters, he repents. Asked who goes to heaven and who doesn't. He wouldn't answer it cause he's full of s**t (as I expected).
Talked to some Christians who pounced on me as soon as I left, we talked for like an hour, basically the s**t I talk about with you guys, they were completely frustrated how right I was, they agreed that God is unknowable but it's faith. Their answer to my question I asked the speaker was "the girls go to hell, they had the chance to believe but they didn't"
My answer still remains, if God has a plan for everyone that's pretty f**ked up how some plans involve having a tormented mortal and spiritual life. Being raped on Earth and then dying, then finding out you're spending eternity away from God.
ANYWAYS
there's a book called Porn Nation. This thread is about porn, the negative and positive effects of it.
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Post by Radiant Magnificence Alastair on Jan 27, 2010 4:54:31 GMT -5
I'm sure if he didn't answer, he would have said something else.
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Post by runny on Jan 27, 2010 10:05:52 GMT -5
Meh. I dont give a s**t who is right anymore. Mark me down on the "dont give a s**t" religion
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Post by Jeremy on Jan 27, 2010 12:31:27 GMT -5
Every Sperm is Sacred .
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Post by runny on Jan 27, 2010 14:43:02 GMT -5
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Post by Atheo on Jan 27, 2010 17:39:57 GMT -5
Since this is a discussion about porn, I'll assume people reading this thread are ok with the various relevant terminologies.
It's often argued that porn is addictive, and I can't say one way or another. I do know, however, that's it's not addictive for all people, in the same that some people are sex addicts and some are not. I watch it semi-regularly, and I'm certainly no addict- I watch it when I'm bored with my imagination, or if I want to fantasize about someone I've never seen before. The problem, I suspect, is becoming addicted to fantasy, so that you prefer it to the real thing. I use it healthily, I believe, in that I have absolutely no problem going on hiatus and I never crave it.
That being said, I think porn can have a bad effect which the religious detractors never seem to pick up on, perhaps because it implies people should have sex: porn can, if used by the inexperienced (I say can, not will), give people the wrong idea about sex. Believe it or not, ye 13-year-olds of the world, but most girls don't enjoy being skullf**ked or double-teamed. And two dicks can't fit in one ass (by the way, that's just gross). If you've never had sex, and your only experience with sex is porn, you can definitely go into your doctor's office with some weird misconceptions, and your first time is going to disappoint you and your girlfriend.
That being said, there is some excellent, realistic, amateur, loving porn out there. It's all I'm willing to watch- the professionally-made stuff is just depressing for me. Too hostile. but the good, gentle, real stuff sure is hard to find.
Oh, and Brent, I've met pretty much the exact same guy. Came to my summer camp to talk about how porn almost ruined his life and his marriage, made him kill himself, and caused him to make his girlfriend get an abortion... it was the most convoluted line of reasoning you could imagine.
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Post by Brent on Jan 27, 2010 18:27:23 GMT -5
Porn is like every other form of media, there is a broad audience.
There are sub genres which segment the market and create target markets. Some people have f**ked up fetishes, some like softcore, some like hardcore, there are a ridiculous amount of types of porn.
I believe I've read studies which find watching non-aggressive porn makes you a less aggressive person, and I'd tend to agree.
When you compare God to porn, both have broad audiences BECAUSE of the personal needs human beings have.
a venn diagram would be perfect in this case but I'm too lazy to make one
God - an invisible friend who will be your best friend, who will love you no matter how bad you screw up because Jesus died on the cross SECURITY
Porn - media with naked people, a visual representation to arouse. SEX
both are distortions because they create a false experience in life. God cannot be verified, Porn distorts views of sex.
I believe love is not found in supernatural beings or watching people do it (although it is good for stress relief).
Love is finding people who you have relationships with, and spending your mortal existence with them, caring for them and being there for them. Loving yourself also.
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Post by The Worm on Jan 28, 2010 1:24:19 GMT -5
I'm going be bold and say that porn is wrong for everybody. Saying that it is not only okay, but necessary because without the sexual release it gives us, we'll explode or something is just submitting to a frame of mind that isn't inherit.
(I don't plan on debating about this by the way)
Oh. and the reason that dude's testimony didn't work, as well as the reason everyone who tries to debate in its favor make negative impacts for their causes is because they apparently missed the verse where it says to not try and win people over to God using the wisdom of man.
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Post by Radiant Magnificence Alastair on Jan 28, 2010 1:29:58 GMT -5
Get a wife.
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Post by Brent on Jan 28, 2010 1:54:15 GMT -5
Oh. and the reason that dude's testimony didn't work, as well as the reason everyone who tries to debate in its favor make negative impacts for their causes is because they apparently missed the verse where it says to not try and win people over to God using the wisdom of man. what verse is that? |
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Post by The Worm on Jan 28, 2010 2:09:40 GMT -5
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Post by Brent on Jan 28, 2010 2:50:11 GMT -5
My answer is that the Bible says a lot of things
this thread is about pornography
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Post by Jeremy on Jan 28, 2010 3:01:33 GMT -5
the words "mental masturbation" come to mind ......... no pun intended
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Post by Brent on Jan 28, 2010 3:05:10 GMT -5
mental masturbation is called a wet dream
why God created wet dreams (nocturnal emissions) is something that baffles me
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Post by Radiant Magnificence Alastair on Jan 28, 2010 3:14:04 GMT -5
lol, I remember when I use to have them.
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